I now have to relate a story that has got Marion & I pretty damned wound up with the specialists in Nijmegen. In short, we feel that they have not been paying adequate attention to Kay’s treatment and could have prevented the onset of these epileptic episodes.
A week last Friday, 30th Oct, we had a very bad night with Kay. She was screaming with tummy cramps all night. Now, it is true that vincristine, one of the primary chemo drugs, causes constipation and cramps. In the days previous to the 30th, Kay had been suffering tummy cramp which had been diagnosed as constipation. But this was a little strange since she hadn’t eaten anything for 5 days or so. Still, we followed instructions and dosed her with laxative until on Friday evening we were instructed to give a double dose of laxative. On Saturday she came down with a fever and was admitted to the Catherina and the subject of her tummy cramp became peripheral. However, the pain continued and we continued to find it disproportionate. We constantly raised the subject, peripherally, and we were constantly told that it was constipation. Half a dozen doctors examined her, could find no sign of anything in her intestinal tract but continued to pronounce constipation. They also said that there’s not much that can be done to relieve tummy cramps and prescribed paracetamol as the best medicine.
But our concerns grew. The pain that Kay was suffering was difficult for us to bare, never mind Kay. But of course, that’s what makes us a biased and unreliable party, theoretically unable and untrained to make professional judgement calls. Since her re-admission on Thursday we have been pushing the subject of her tummy cramp harder, since if that could be solved Kay would be able to sleep, we would be able to sleep and everyone would be far better off.
On Saturday the specialists in Nijmegen told us that Kay’s epileptic attacks were probably caused by vincristine toxicity resulting from the use of itraconasol. The itraconasol has been stopped and so Kay’s condition is starting to improve. But on Saturday night and all day Sunday she was in extreme pain from the cramps, unable to sleep for more than about 30 mins at a time and very upset and scared from the pain and the epileptic attacks. So yesterday Marion exercised parent power and demanded that something be done. And now she is being given a different pain killer that has reduced the effect of the cramps dramatically. Last night she slept for 4.5 hrs non-stop, the first time for more than 10 days.
Last night I decided to look into the subject of itraconasol toxicity and came across a very interesting paper from the Journal of Paediatric Oncology, see: http://journals.lww.com/jpho-online/Abstract/2005/07000/Itraconazole_Related_Increased_Vincristine.10.aspx for the abstract, if anyone is interested. Now on reading this article I discovered that the primary symptoms of this toxicity include: the normal vincristine abdominal cramps and constipation, but then greatly magnified by toxicity induced by the itraconasol. In other words Kay has been suffering the preliminary effects of itraconasol toxicity for probably 10 days, meaning that if someone had taken Marion & I seriously and looked into the cramps earlier the toxicity build-up leading to the brain damage and epilepsy could have been avoided. This could have been determined by a relatively simple test to look at vincristine toxicity in her blood.
I have to say that we are pretty unhappy by this lapse on behalf of the specialists. There’s more to the situation than I have written here and of course, as I expect the doctors to use as an excuse, we’re not dealing with exact science. But on other hand we’re supposed to be in the hands of the top professionals and they should be able to think of things like itraconasol toxicity.
I have put my concerns to the duty doctor today, rather pointedly. I have been told that the top man, The Professor, will drop by later today, I assume to correct my layman’s understanding of the situation. I suppose that parents who go around downloading papers from medical journal websites must a bane in the life of the professional medic. I said so much to the duty doctor, who replied: “But you have to pay for those papers, don’t you?”. To which my response was, “What’s $40,- compared to understanding in detail what is going on with my daughter?”.
I sometimes wonder about people...
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Dear Rob and Kay,
ReplyDeleteGoodness me, how frustrating and infuriating for you guys not be able to get to the bottom of these tummy aches more quickly! Good for you Rob for doing your own research and demanding answers from the medics. Keep it up until you get some satisfactory answers. They are only human after all and maybe they have overlooked some issues that are causing this persistent problem.
Kay - It must be very frightening dealing with the attacks and your poorly tummy. You are handling it all so bravely and I hope you start to feel more comfortable very soon.
With love, Philippa x
Ik hoop zo dat alles goed komt,dat het ergste achter de rug is.
ReplyDeleteOngelooflijk dat er bij deze,ik neem toch aan ervaren specialisten geen alarmbelletjes rinkelden,naar aanleiding van al die symptomen,het had zoveel leed kunnen besparen..en het bewijst ook weer dat je als ouders op je eigen gevoel kan vertrouwen,keep up the faith!
Lieve Kay:we denken aan je,en hopen dat het snel weer goed met je gaat,groetjes van Silvia(de overblijf),Nomi en Dayo
To Rob:(maybe you`re already tired off all the tips..),but if you want to look what`s possible in the alternative world:google at:Hulda Clark,(zapper and colloïdal water),i don`t say that its all true,but i have some possitive experiences and it can`t do no harm
Rob,
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly what makes you you. The doctors are going to have to deal with you. Kay's got the best possible set of parents to get her through this. Keep going! Most parents probably would like to, but are not able to perform the way you two do.
Ton.
Hi Rob
ReplyDeleteI have been following this blog since hearing about Kay's condition and wish her a speedy and full recovery. It sounds to me that you are all coping fantastically with the situation. Speaking as a GP I think you are right to continually question the doctors. They do not know everything. As a concerned intelligent parent with internet access you can be more informed then them. I have usually found that parents know their children better than the doctor and that the doctor needs to pay careful attention to their concerns.
Best Wishes
Ian
Rob,
ReplyDeleteOf course it is impressive that you can get hold of this material and overall I think it is a good thing: I guess that (used intelligently and with enough objectivity) it could also keep the specialists on their toes.
But I want to warn you against taking too much responsibility for what has happened (and what may yet happen). You are neither a specialist nor a god and you cannot control things. All this may be a more sophisticated, Internet fueled version of hindsight, but as useless as all forms of hindsight.
Saying "if only..." is going to be the most damaging aspect of this to you that may remain with you for many years, and it is not helpful. There could always have been another series of events that could even have been worse. You will never know, and it is not relevant.
I will tell you a story from my experience to make it clear how I feel. You will know that we have struggled with Charlotte for six years - taking her to all manner of neuro-specialsts and their brethren across the length of Belgium. She is one year behind her natural schoool year, and takes Ritilin every day to help her concentrate.
Charlotte was born breach in 2001, and I was there at her birth. Later we read the reports of her vital signs at birth: they were not good. A student nurse was in charge of cleaning Charlotte up, and in my recollection later, took too much time to give Charlotte oxygen.
In the years that have followed and the difficulties that have ensued, I have wondered what I should have done. Insisted that a student nurse should not be the one handling my newborn baby daughter. Insist that a Caeserian would have been better for a first time mother about to give a breach birth... They are moments of guilt, where I take it on me, as though it were my fault.
But "what if"? What if we had demanded a Caesarian and it had "gone wrong?" And any other replay of events... we will never know. Truthfully, it is not a matter of blame. What happened, happened and was always going to happen.
Of course, you understand and I expect you accept this objectively, but I repeat that your search for clues as to what did happen is a more sophisticated form of hindsight in which you are both playing at specialist and perhaps more subtly, god.
Do so with caution, and do not blame yourself.
Love,
James